you need to be in had you a position and ronald reagan negotiated this way beautifulliy multiple times. boehner has to say this guy is crazy he will take us over the cliff and we have the worst possible case, we have to cut that deal. the deal at best is going to get half the republicans and a little more than haf the democrats. the president has to make sure he keeps his democrats in the tent because they are not going to be happy with some of the elements of change and we have seen a coalition of labor and liberals saying no way. >> so, in the nitty-gritty before we get to entitlements. what if -- would it be better if we increase taxes on a larger group of people everybody making over 250,000 by a smaller amount or increasing taxes on a smaller group making more than a million and go up to 39.6%. what is more likely to happen? >> it's more likely to be the former than the latter. i must tell you jennifer, i don't much care, you have to get that revenue target. the president said 1.6 trillion. you probably end up compromising at 1.2 trillion from taxes. you have to figure out what yo